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Pornography, erectile dysfunction, and Meth
Crystal
Clear |
Pornography, erectile dysfunction & Meth
Can anybody shed some
light on this one for me?
Meth user for 15 years, has LOST his manhood to this drug, IE:
Crystal Dick, and has become totally impotent in life, IE: Tweek
& Spin.
What is the motivation to seek out Pornography, "Adult Dating"
web sites and DO NOTHING. Can't hardly leave the house.
Is it just simply the symptoms of just how far the addiction has
progressed - More downhill from here? |
Replies... |
LoveMet |
Re: Pornography, erectile dysfunction & Meth
I can honestly say I do
not understand either. My fiancee' would buy loads of porn, and
make collages of porn. But he could not perform sexually hardly
at all and would blame ME if he could not. THEN after that
stupidty, he would attempt to make me watch hours of
porn...while I eh hem helped him and if did not work he always
got angry. |
blondie |
Re: Pornography, erectile dysfunction & Meth
I don't understand this either...but from everything that I have
read they go hand in hand....
My ex is involved in all the pron and dating sites...was/is on a
site called bored wifes...pretty sick too me.. |
danima
l55 |
Re: Pornography, erectile dysfunction & Meth
The brain say go, the
body says no.
Meth attacks the sexual drive center of the brain and creates a
hypersexual monster that feeds on porn, and vice versa. Solo sex
[if any] is par for the course. Some refer to it as "mental
masturabation". Regardless of what we call it, the
hypersexuality, depravity, debauchery and hours in the bathroom
eventually "peter out" and fade to impotence and indifference. |
Loraura |
Re: Pornography, erectile dysfunction & Meth
SFJ cracks me up with his
favorite term for this -- "the 24 hour taffy pull"! |
Time4
Change |
Re: Pornography, erectile dysfunction & Meth
So if the body is saying
no then what happens when they use viagra or cialis in
combination with the meth?
I'm guessing a 4 hr taffy pull?
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Crystal
Clear |
Re: Pornography, erectile dysfunction & Meth
Taking Viagra, or Cialis did not work .... AT ALL. NO ERECTION,
the dick was in a coma.
As for the 4 hour taffy pull ... nope. NOTHING WORKED.
As a result, I have gone without meat, I am not a vegetarian ...
a woman cannot live on potatos alone ... |
Meth
Phobia |
Re: Pornography, erectile dysfunction & Meth
Hey Crystal,
From my understanding porn could be meth related but then again
it could be an addiction on its own... |
Sfj |
Re: Pornography, erectile dysfunction & Meth
Meth works on the center part of the human brain. This is the
part that regulates the more primitive aspects of our mental
process. The center deals with such things as pleasure,
cravings, and instinctive actions without regard to reason,
logic, or higher functions of thinking.
The front part of the brain, or the administrative part is what
controls higher level thinking. These areas include logic,
analysis, morality and the ability to reach rational decisions
based upon fact, truth, and global methods of viewing a
situation. When meth is used, the front part of the brain gets
ignored. It is as if reason, and logic get shut down.
The center part of the brain gets highly stimulated from meth.
The user has an urgency to find something that defies logic,
common sense, decency, and moral virtue in order to gratify the
need that meth has created. By exploring forbidden areas of
pleasure and perverse behavior, even as a fantasy, or maybe I
should say, especially as a fantasy, those areas of the center
portion of the brain receive the things that they seek.
As time goes on, what served as adequate titillation, and
excitement, soon becomes boring and mundane and the meth user
needs more perverse and more bizarre stimulation to satisfy the
need created by meth use.
The fantasies and imaginary world of a meth user is much more
real and satisfying than an actual partner in many cases. In CMA
meetings, it is common for a tweaker to tell about how many
VCR?s he wore out during his tweaking days.
Another thing about fantasy vs., reality, is that the user does
not have to consider anyone else. Solo sex is often the
preferred method of many meth users because it is the only time
where anything goes, no one complains, and the user is in full
control of the situation. Control is a big factor. Meth users
feel the need to control whatever they can, whenever they can in
order to satisfy the center of the brain that has been poisoned
by meth.
Gay porn often creates a sufficiently taboo and naughty outlet
for the user to get what the drug requires.
The above explanations are certainly not true in every case. But
you?d be surprised how often they are.
An answer to your question is this:
Consider eating a cheeseburger to be one, or one hundred percent
on the pleasure scale.
Pleasure is, in a way, the release of dopamine, and some other
chemical changes in the brain.
An orgasm, might be 200 per cent
Cocaine, maybe 225
Meth is one thousand.
Most men have what is called, ?UNCONTROLLABLE SEXUAL DESIRE? in
the official literature of CMA .
How Meth
Addicts Think and Feel |
queen
b92 |
Re: Pornography, erectile dysfunction & Meth
AHHHH! I hate porn, and
the thing is that I didnt hate it until me and my hubby were
using. He became so addicted to it that it would make me cry
cause I could be laying next to him ready to do whatever sexual
thing he would want and he would be so engrossed in the porn.
And then came the online chate rooms and so forth. I even caught
him once cause I found out what chat room he was going on
through his cell phone(meant going through his phone while he
was asleep!!!!) and I logged on with a screen name on my phone
and talked to him for about an hour while i was supposed to be
in class and I came home in absolute tears cause he was saying
that he was single and asking what I looked like. But we never
had a problem getting the goods to rise to the occasion it was
getting him to complete it took like three days. But anyways to
whoever is having this problem with spouses or other people in
there life. Porn hasnt even been touched since the day we got
sober he even sold his!!! |
Crystal
Clear |
Re: Pornography, erectile dysfunction & Meth
Thanks SFJ ......I
appreciate your response.
I will go back and read it again, and I am sure I will get more
out of it.
Your response explains alot more than just the pornography. I
have often said to myself (and others) that where he is
concerned, all logic and reason has gone out the window. It has
become impossible to communicate with him. I care about him so
much, I cannot watch this. It breaks my heart. I joke about it,
try and laugh - it's just a way of coping. Sometimes I cry too.
But, it's getting easier.
The last time I saw him .... his hair line has dramatically
receded, pasty grey/brown skin tone, and Type II Diabetes with
sugar levels of 299.
Refuses medication, self blood sugar monitoring, and will not
consider recovery. All I could do is walk away. |
Time4
Change |
Re: Pornography, erectile dysfunction & Meth
Does what stage of
the high your in have any affect on the performance level?
My personal experience with a user was that it would stand but
was short lived the majority of the time. I never could tell if
he was using or not. A couple of times it could have went on for
days and I remember noticing that his temp was extremely hot at
that time.
That's why I asked about the viagra or cialis. Now because of
the hot temp and the marathon ... I'm wondering if he had just
gotten high? |
Turnkey3 |
Re: Pornography, erectile dysfunction & Meth
MAMA (Mothers Against
Methamphetamines)teaches that porn is a trigger and will cause
cravings (for meth). I don't know if this has anything to do
with what your are asking, but it may, huh?
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forget
suzette |
Re: Pornography, erectile dysfunction & Meth
you are too selfish to
please someone else.
.....you please yourself.
sometimes your desires proceed what you are willing to admit to
a parner you would like..because you usually would'nt want that.
.................so, you draw, or buy porn.
not to be obscene...just for example.
....I was with a partner, we both we're high...I told him to
pinch my nipples hard and harder...
...I woke up in blood...his finger nail went thru my left
nipple...and i did'nt know till the next day.
it's severe.
with the threshold of
pain you can enjoy/endure and the strength you get, stamina,
level of arousal..
...it's like a BOLD sensitivity, not ticklish...it turned me
into a dangerous perverted monster.
can you imagine a sexual preditor? or pediphile on meth?
.....but when I'd jack off, the world was safe again.
the things in my mind.
.....the twisted perversion,were real nasty fantasies that when
you are done you think...
...WOW!
I got off on that?!
....it's like a inward sexual trip.
it's better than STDs tho.
.....I don't think the same things I thought doing speed.
not even close. |
Sfj |
Re: Pornography, erectile dysfunction & Meth
To Turnkey3,
I am one of Mary Holley's biggest fans. I consistently recommend
her book, website and program.
But she misses the mark a bit on this one. The only triggers for
meth, are meth and breathing air.
Porn won't trigger meth in someone who has never used.
But meth will definately trigger porn. |
Crystal
Clear |
Re: Pornography, erectile dysfunction & Meth
Jeez .... I am in no way
a prude, but Suzette, you have opened my eyes in a way that both
sickens, and saddens me.
There is no way a woman like myself, could EVER understand this,
without a no nonsense, no BS, point of view such as yours. Thank
you.
It's just further evidence for me that I didn't belong there,
and it makes me afraid.
I had no clue. |
forget
suzette |
Re: Pornography, erectile dysfunction & Meth
oh man...
...it sickens and saddens me too.
I was faithful, and I had long time partners when I did it.
.....that also used.
one went completely psychotic, thinking what i did with him I
was doing with everyone....
................and I never left home.
the other wanted me to stick a cucumber up his ass.
........I said we could hire someone to do it, and i would wait
outside.
he got me to draw tranvestites blowing him...
....I can draw, and the pictures looked exactly like him.
I happily did it, because of the weird subject matter.
.....but each passing picture, estranged me more and more
from him.
I was'nt a trannie, or a very young girl...like teenagers
.....having sex with him.
the more I did'nt want to be in bed with him, and the more I was
in the bathtub, because I jack off with running water.
ha ha ha! |
Crystal
Clear |
Re: Pornography, erectile dysfunction & Meth
Thanks for the laugh ....
He never asked me to do anything like you describe ...
I am a non-meth user ... Maybe not exactly normie, however
I am a recovered cocaine addict of 17 years.
It was all the torture I could stand, just by being with him and
listen to the crap of "why" he couldn't get it up ... everything
from "I have performance anxiety", to "Older men have this
problem, you know" , to "No, it's not the Pot" to "No it's not
anything else" (never did he admit to the Meth.) to "No, it's
not YOU", to "No, we don't need to watch porn." to "Well, I have
Diabetes Type II you know, that could cause it" .... and on and
on.
Perhaps a cucumber up his A** would do the trick. I'm afraid I
would have to hire someone for that too ... can you pass along
her number? |
forget
suzette |
Re: Pornography, erectile dysfunction & Meth
check your inbox..
...we can afford to speak even more openly at my cyber house..
..so you can get your answers with no holes barred.
|
Kell
happy |
Re: Pornography, erectile dysfunction & Meth
I don't hear women
discussing this topic much.
I started watching porn while on meth. I don't really find it
all that shocking anymore. I found Sfj's post about the brain
stimulation very informative.
I wonder if that same concept relates to sexual behavior other
than watching porn. I know I didn't exactly make the best
choices when it came to sex while I was getting high. I wasn't
safe, or choosy. I was not a "nice" girl. Some of my other
female using buddies were into some very strange shyt too. Stuff
I didn't understand.
I have a pretty normal sex life now. We had more before the baby
came, which is pretty normal as far as I know. My sex drive used
to be more than my husband's, now it is less I think. I feel sad
about it. I started to feel very self-conscious and unsexy after
all the surgery I had to deliver the baby and to help my post-op
infections, I quite a few incisions and felt kind of like a pin
cushion, or something. My son is almost 1 year old, in July, and
I'm still tired a lot of the time. |
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